Thursday, April 25, 2013

NANCY & DENNIS: TOWARD A LIFELONG FEMALE-LED MARRIAGE: PHONE CALLS, EMAIL & TEXTING – TAKING CONTROL


At an impromptu discussion on female-led relationships, a number of women mentioned that phones and other digital devices have become a major distraction; so much so that men were falling behind in their domestic duties. Men as well as women brought up this issue! A number of couples have rules in place around phones and phone use that work well; we certainly do! In dennis' case, phone interruptions have been eliminated! Here's something to think about:

Monitor his phone use – Put him on notice that his phone use, whether cell or landline, will be monitored. He's more likely to use it correctly if he knows he knows he's being watched.

Take away his cell phone – Take his cell phone when he comes home; he won't be needing it, and if it rings with calls or beeps with text messages, it will be a distraction. Dennis gives his cell phone to Mother or me when he gets home. We lock it away until he goes to work or goes out to do grocery shopping or run errands.

See who's calling, texting, emailing – Once he gives you his phone, why not see who he's been communicating with and what's being said? Mother reviews dennis' text messages, emails, recent call list, and voice messages; don't forget voice messages! Many of the messages he was getting were pure rubbish – guys texting and emailing jokes and comments, many of them sexist and obviously not business-related at all. These aren't the types of outside influences I want my man dealing with. Dennis was just deleting these things, but we went a step further to eliminate them. Since he was getting such non-business messages on his company phone, I made sure he took the issue up at work:

I had dennis take up inappropriate emails and texts from employees and coworkers with his boss, Carol. Together they investigated and put together new rules and policies at his company, particularly around sexist jokes and comments. An intern was assigned to monitor communications for violations. The intern did her job well, and a number of men were warned, suspended or dismissed for violations. The intern also pointed out that many of the men she monitored made very few business calls, so Carol took away their company-paid phones altogether, saving a lot of money. Women managers should consider doing this at their companies; I did, same result.

On a personal level Mother and I started responding to text messages and emails Dennis received. The sender thought that they were receiving a response from Dennis so our reply was particularly effective; a sharp rebuke often did the trick. At other times we'd say, “Dennis is busy cleaning the kitchen, please don't bother him” or “Dennis isn't allowed to text message until his work is done.” Such a response sends a strong message about who wears the pants in our family. A progressive gentleman would think nothing of Dennis cleaning the kitchen (isn’t that what a dutiful husband should be doing?); while a macho guy would consider it being henpecked and likely quit his bothersome texting.

We also forward emails and text messages to women in our network or to the sender's wife. Often we do this “accidentally” by simply including her name on the message; at other times we're more direct, perhaps commenting, “Jane, what do you think of this?” And then including Jane on the copy list. There are a number of men who have faced the wrath of their wives for an inappropriate message they sent. In most cases the emails and texts stop when a female authority figure steps in.

Blind copy – Under certain circumstances I have dennis blind copy Mother or me on messages; this keeps us in the loop as the conversation develops.

Have him give you his cell phone password – Make sure you have his phone password so you can monitor, review and, if needed, respond to or forward messages. And don't forget the password for voicemail, which may be different.

His work phone – If he has a cell phone at work, make sure you monitor his use of it. Many
men use their cell phones to get around house rules about phone use. Don't let your man do this. He probably gets a monthly statement for his work cell phone; review it and ask questions! He needs to know you're watching. If he doesn't get a statement – or says he doesn't – get in touch with a woman you know where he works; she may be able to help.

Limit his sharing his phone number – If he has only a company cell phone, this is hard to do, but to the extent possible, limit who he gives his cell phone number to. Dennis is not allowed to give out his cell or, especially, my home number unless Mother and I approve, and we usually don't. The more people who have his number, the more likely we are to be bothered.

And don't forget the landline phone! It presents special problems because Mother and I as well as Dennis use that number. From our FLR workshops we have found that some women practice call screening and monitoring as a way of managing their man's calls.

We manage our land line through a few rules:

Prohibit him from answering the phone – Dennis is not allowed to answer our home phone; only Mother or I can do so. In this way we can screen all incoming calls and determine how they are handled:
  • We can tell the caller that Dennis is busy with housework and can't be bothered.
  • After a pause we can tell the caller that Dennis doesn't want to speak with them; this is particularly effective with male callers looking to chat. The pause suggests to the caller that we are asking dennis whether he wants to take the call and that he is saying “no.” In reality, of course, he's never being asked; we're making that decision, but it does have the desired impact on the caller.
  • We can let Dennis take the call, something he understands is limited to five minutes.
  • We can let Dennis take the call and we can stay on the line to monitor the conversation.
  • An exception to his not being allowed to answer the phone at home is if Mother or I are out and he sees that we are calling; then, of course, he has to answer.

One woman requires her husband take all calls on the speakerphone in the kitchen. This allows her to conveniently monitor if she wants to. Calls tend to be shorter too, since the caller is aware that he is on a speakerphone.

Mother screens calls and, if she approves of a caller or is just curious, she directs Dennis to another phone so she can stay on the line. Although she usually doesn't speak, she makes no secret of being on the line, something that leads to shorter calls. Mother has commented when men have said things she felt were derogatory to women, and she's passed on tips to women of things that came up in monitored conversations.

One man we know asks his wife to monitor calls, especially if he knows that he’ll later be asking her advice or approval. In such cases it’s beneficial for her to hear the conversation firsthand. Dennis agrees and routinely asks Mother or me to be on the line when he takes or makes a call.

We don't allow Dennis to accept calls from men of whom we don't approve. They are told rather tersely not to call back. Those who do eventually call back get the message when they are always turned down; and they learn who wears the pants in our family!

Screen and monitor outgoing calls, too. Women should know who is being called and why. If she wouldn’t want her man to receive a call from an individual, she certainly shouldn’t let him make a call to that person.

Dennis has to ask permission to make calls. If we approve of the call, we can monitor if we want.

Carefully review your phone bill each month. Have your man explain questionable charges. If he knows he’s going to have to justify calls made, he won't make them.

Put a limit on your man’s use of the phone. Many women feel that a 5-10 minute limit for their man's calls – incoming or outgoing – is adequate. You may also want to limit the number of calls he makes and receives. Dennis is allowed no more that 10 calls a month at home.

Calls from men we approve of and from female authority figures are always allowed and there are no time limits. One of Dennis' male friends – also in an FLR – called recently. His wife was monitoring as was Mother. It turned into a four-way discussion!
And remember, it's not the calls or texting that's the problem; it's the wasted time and outside influence that are of paramount importance.

N

Sunday, April 21, 2013

NANCY & DENNIS: TOWARD A LIFELONG FEMALE LED MARRIAGE—WHAT'S IN THERE?



At a recent Female-Led workshop, a woman said she suspects that her husband is hiding things from her. Unfortunately, she’s probably right! Men do tend to squirrel things away and might be tempted to hide things from their wives, particularly if the man in question has only recently started on an FLR or if the wife is in the process of establishing control.

Our little conclave suggested that she look into things and provided her some suggestions. We added that by doing so she was doing him a favor—helping him do what’s right.

Things to check – men are good at hiding things; be good at finding them!

Make sure your man understands that your having complete authority means “complete access.” When you ask him to give you his wallet to look through, his ONLY response should be, “Yes, Ma'am!” Women need to understand this, too. Ladies, don't feel guilty about looking into things. By being in the know you’re helping him do what's right!

His wallet—Periodically check his wallet. Does he have more money than you allow? Are there any credit card or ATM receipts that he should have given you or that he shouldn’t have in the first place? Does he have inappropriate receipts; things he shouldn’t have bought? If he does, demand an explanation; take any money he shouldn’t have.

One woman in our group is particularly strict on this. If her husband has money he shouldn't, it costs him, no matter the reason! He has to turn over that amount PLUS 50%. If he has bought something without her permission, the item is returned, and she gets the money plus 50%.

In dennis' case, he gets a generous allowance but can't have more than $20 in his wallet without permission. If he does, it costs him! Money right then and there as well as adding demerits that will eventually cost him yet again. There’s no protection from “double jeopardy” with me.

His computer bag—A woman friend periodically checks her husband’s computer case; she found that he was using it to hide men’s magazines that he wasn’t supposed to have.

Toolboxes—Check toolboxes, work benche, and the garage for things he might be hiding. One woman’s husband was using a toolbox to hide liquor that he was only supposed to be drinking with her permissions.

The trunk of the car—The trunk of his car is a common hiding place; check in the wheel well, too. You’ll never know what you’ll find. One woman found that her husband was hiding money he wasn’t supposed to have in HER car! The $500 she found under the spare tire when she had a flat came in handy at the mall! He was playing games with expense reimbursements and used that money to treat his male friends despite her not allowing him. No more! And she used this as an opportunity to call her husband's company to make sure that future expense reimbursements were put in with his normal pay where she could control them.

Another woman found men’s magazines in her husband’s car, magazines he wasn't permitted to have. Now she checks not only his car but his briefcase quite often.

No locks!—Something with a lock on it should make you suspicious; have the lock removed or have him give you a key. One woman made a statement by having dennis cut the lock cut off while her man was away; dennis is always happy to help women get or maintain control! She found new tools he didn't need and didn't have permission to buy. Her having the lock removed stressed her authority and her impatience with her man when it came to his following rules.

Keep him on his toes—Check often but not predictably, not with any regularity. Being effective means surprising him. I may check dennis’ wallet three days in a row and then not for a month. It's all random.

Be firm – I meet dennis at the door and demand his wallet or his bag and go through it. No hello kiss, no conversation—until I take care of business!

Be assertive—I might scatter the contents of his wallet or computer case on the floor. I'm showing my authority in a way other than by just looking.

By preventing her man from hiding things, a woman eliminates temptation and helps him do what’s right—that is, do what SHE wants done!

Oh, and ladies, your purse is purely private and he should understand this. dennis may carry
mother’s or my purse, but he knows better than to EVER look into them.  EVER!  One day I was at the mall with mother, and I needed a number from a credit card inside my purse. Dennis was at home and could have looked, but I had him bring the purse to me at the mall.  I got the number I needed and sent him back home with the purse.  It reinforced his understanding of my complete privacy. Mother purposely asked dennis to get something from her purse. Dennis responded correctly by bringing her the purse. He didn't go into it; he knew better!

N

Sunday, April 14, 2013

NANCY & DENNIS REVISITED (from 2008)


Note: Nancy and Dennis are taking a brief break from guest-posting here, but are expected back shortly (and are greatly missed). In the interim, here is a reprise from the first post I did about them back on Aug. 13, 2008 -- before I was able to connect with them via email and ask them to be guest bloggers.

As you will note, Dennis was the nominal author of these brief excerpts from some of their posts on the old Yahoo “Venus on Top Discussion Board” (precursor of the "She Makes the Rules DiscussionBoard"). I enjoy his writing, but I was certainly delighted that Nancy has asserted her primacy in the more recent posts appearing here.

What struck me from the first, however, was that here was  a couple who, by their own description, not only advocated but evangelized for female-led relationships, and did so effectively and unapologetically. -- Mark Remond

Their "Backstory"
“Nancy and I have been in a female-led situation for over 25 years, Nancy is in charge of our household.
She manages our finances, makes all major decisions, and sets our social agenda. Nancy's mother, Sue, lives with us and I defer to her as I would Nancy…

“[But] while both Nancy and her mother can be quick-tempered, ours is not a BDSM relationship, nor am I going about the house teetering on heels with a feather duster when doing housework. Ours is a pragmatic relationship with a variety of house rules and expectations where my opinions are valued and considered. In the end, of course, we all recognize that women will be making the final decisions!”

“Nancy and I met in college – at a NOW meeting no less – and hit it off quickly; Nancy assumed a leadership role right from the start and that role continues to this day. Over the years she's taken more power. She's the financial manager and decision maker who is focused on her career. I, on the other hand, do the majority of the housework and am generally supportive of Nancy's career and personal goals.
Socially, we enjoy the company of other couples who, like us, are in varying degrees of female-led relationships.”

“We work at a local women's center where we conduct workshops aimed at getting wom
en to be more assertive in their personal relationships… We offer them practical tips for taking control, the first of which is for women to take control of the finances.”

“We are evangelists for female-dominated relationships and want to encourage more couples to embark on them. We advise women to take control of their relationships and do so by becoming more demanding of their men. These three points -- money, housework, and social life -- emerge as the big ones.
“What women want, in our experience, is some say in the finances, a man who'll bear his share of the housework, and a man that she can share social activities with. In our view women can't have too much control of these important relationship elements.”

FLR = Harmony & Happiness

“Nancy and I do have differences of opinion but my opinion is sought and considered, although we all recognize that within our relationship women will be making the final decision and, once made, that decision is final.”

“Our opinion is that female-led relationships have fewer issues and problems than vanilla ones, but this assumes that an FLR is a total commitment, not just a game. It also assumes benevolence on the part of the woman making the decisions in that relationship.”

“As a man I can tell you that I like knowing exactly what my wife wants and when and how she wants it done. No conflict; no arguments. And I can tell you that most men really do want to make their wives happy.”

Financial Control

“Nancy and I teach that managing finances is critical to a woman's leading a relationship. [Women] might want to enhance [their] skills in this area by seeking a skilled financial planner and/or taking some workshops. Women's organizations such as NOW and the YWCA are good places to start for such resources.”

“I'm embarrassed to say that I was quite the spendthrift early in our marriage and spending money and not able to account for it, so Nancy put her foot down and initiated some pretty strict rules. She took away my debit card, limited how much money I could have with me at any one time – I was spending WAY too much at work buying coffee, lunches, and so on for too many people, too often.
   
“Her rules include limiting me to an allowance (albeit a generous one), requiring direct depositing of my paychecks, her having access to my company savings and benefits plans, limiting my use of bank and credit cards, and requiring justification of all card charges.


“How I spend my allowance is up to me but I've made a habit of asking Nancy's opinion on larger purchases. I can request (extra funds] but there are almost always conditions attached. Having to ask for money is a tremendous statement of who is in control. We are now financially solid as a result of her controls.”

House Rules

“We have a number of practical house rules that we've established over the years, mostly things that have
just evolved from practice as opposed to being dictates from my wife. Discipline is rare; I understand her expectations and, for the most part, meet them…We are friends with other couples in similar situations – households where the men realize the innate superiority of the women and defer to them.”
Power Exchange

“[Women shouldn’t] feel guilty about using power. Men derive tremendous benefits from an FLR so women should use the power they derive from such a relationship and seek more of it…
   
“In our evangelization of this lifestyle we frequently cite our own and the experiences of couples we know in FLR situations. All are extremely happy and wouldn't want it any other way. But it takes specifics to get things rolling one small step at a time. Once the lifestyle has momentum though, our experience is
that he'll be doing more, offering more power on his own.”

Thursday, April 4, 2013

NANCY & DENNIS: SOME RANDOM THINGS



This is a postscript to the previous post, Keeping Control in a Lifelong Female-Led Marriage—a few things that just didn't fit anywhere else:

Keeping him busy on the road–A woman-friend was concerned about her husband traveling on business. I suggested she set rules and make calls to ensure that he's complying. Mother suggested she give him something to do while he's on the road, something to keep him busy:

Good reading—Men should be reading women's books and magazines and Feminist literature. Business travel is a great time to catch up. Dennis reads romance novels. Before he goes on a trip Mother gives him a new book and tells him that she expects to discuss it with him when he gets home. Hint: he better have read it!
 
Pack your knitting, gentlemen—Men should also have a craft such as knitting. Have your man pack his knitting, note where he is on a project and tell him how much more he’s to have done when he comes home. He should have a good reason for not getting as far as expected.

Getting ahead in the ‘new’ corporate environment—Dennis gets it down to a few key points:
  • Ask for and take women's advice
  • Shut up and listen to what women are saying
  • Don't pass a female secretary or administrator's desk without asking if you can copy something for her or get something for her
  • Make and serve some coffee
  • Oh, and remember, it's “Yes, Ma’am”


Every day I love to:
  • Have my husband put my shoes on for me before I walk to my car
  • Hear my husband say, “Yes, Ma’am!”
  • Give my husband something extra to do; buy cigarettes that I don't need, run out for pantyhose that I have no intention of wearing, pick up something I'm only going to tell him to take back
  • Tell my husband, “NO!”
  • Find fault with something my husband has done; and hear him say he's sorry
  • Tell my husband that women are better than men and have him agree!
  • Have my husband take off my shoes when I come home from work
  • Do it all because I can!